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Minutes of EARN Executive Committee Meeting, 22 June 1988, Paris 

EARN REPRESENTATIVES:  
Alain Auroux, EARN Office, Paris
Paul Bryant, United Kingdom 
Joe Chester, EARN Office, Dublin 
Frode Greisen, Denmark 
Michael Hebgen, Germany 
Dennis Jennings, Ireland 
David Lord, CERN 
Stefano Trumpy, Italy

A. MINUTES AND MATTERS ARISING

1. MINUTES OF LAST MEETING

The Minutes of the last EARN EXEC meeting were approved and signed and will be distributed to EARN BOD by Michael Hebgen.

2. MATTERS ARISING

The action list was checked by the EARN EXEC and will be updated and distributed by Joe Chester.

Bundespost: Michael Hebgen informed the EARN EXEC that the German PTT is planning a national academic network based on X.25 (84) with NO volume dependent tariffs to be available mid 1989. Also a re-definition of the term "Campus" is in process for the distributed universities.

COCOM: Michael Hebgen informed the EARN EXEC that he has written a letter to the German Department of Commerce to clear the situation regarding the connection of COCOM proscribed countries.

CEPT: Stefano Trumpy explained the negative response from the CEPT regarding the funding for meetings.

IBM grant: Dennis Jennings has checked the budget split of the IBM grant between the 2 EARN offices (150 KECU Dublin, 100 KECU Paris).

New Agenda Items:

B. ITEMS FOR DECISION

3. MANAGEMENT OF TECHNOLOGY

A discussion took place on the draft proposal circulated by Joe Chester.

Michael Hebgen explained the German position which sees EARN as a cooperative network, with bilateral agreements and decisions based on consensus. Therefore Germany agrees that the EARN EXEC needs some information on the plans of the national nodes and the national nodes should provide them if they have significant implications on the service and performance of EARN. On the other hand Germany does not accept central control or a need for an agreement by the EARN EXEC.

The following discussion has shown that the key question is "Does the EARN EXEC has the authority to refuse changes if we do not reach consensus?" In this sense the proposal will be redrafted that major changes should be put forward to the EARN EXEC for understanding.

Regarding the information Michael Hebgen was asked to send a short description of planned changes at DEARN and Dennis Jennings should ask the Scandinavian countries to inform the EARN EXEC on change aspects regarding EARN service and users.

The proposal on Management of Changes was agreed with the following additions: "Procedure ... it is agreed that the proposed changes, significant to the network, in hardware and software -" and "if necessary, further technical evaluation will be requested by the Executive Committee to achieve consensus"

4. SNA PROPOSAL

Michael Hebgen explained that he has withdrawn the proposal at this time because he sees no reason for such a proposal in the light of the previous discussion on management of changes. It was agreed to defer this item to a future meeting.

5. NODE ADMINISTRATORS

Alain Auroux reported that he had distributed the description to the Board members. The description is under discussion in the NOG (network operations group) and he will reword the draft including other operating systems than VM.

6. EARN89

Dennis Jennings reported that he has send a message to the EARN BOD and received an offer from Greece supported by Germany and Turkey.

Alain Auroux was asked to send an initial invitation message for setting up a Programme Committee and to tell the EARN BOD that we have to cancel EARN89 if we do not have a programme before end of September 88.

Dennis Jennings informed the EARN EXEC about plans for EARN90 as European Networks Users Conference - see also appendix A.

7. OSI TRANSITION PROGRAMME

Stefano Trumpy presented the minutes of and gave a short report on the recent meeting of the COSINE Policy Group (CPG) held June 21, 1988, where the report of RARE Working Party A (WPA) was discussed and the PTT solution has been favored - a pilot of MDNS framework has been offered by the Dutch PTT.

Joe Chester mentioned that the WPA report, the basis for the CPG decision, was not agreed - specifically the working items in chapter 6 - and that it was not presented properly, in detail the other possible network scenario, a "User Community Managed Private Network" like EARN, EUNET, HEPNET and SPAN.

After a lengthy discussion the EARN EXEC decided that Dennis Jennings should check the view of the other participants of RARE WPA (EUNET, HEPNET etc.), speak with the chairman of RARE WPA and contact the chairman of the COSINE CPG.

Because the CEPT MDNS is to be stablished in October 1988 Dennis Jennings was asked to clarify the offering of the Dutch PTT.

Draft Implementation Plan: Joe Chester presented the draft pilot implementation plan which consists of 3 phases

starting in June 1988.

RAL and CERN agreed in principle to be the initial pilot sites for the X.25 infrastructure and the EARN EXEC has taken it as a working decision. Joe Chester was asked to work through Phase 1

Table 1: Survey on responses for the X.25 switch locations 

Installation I Response
CERN              Required resources unclear
MOP               Formal agreement
Dublin            Yes
Pisa              NT/X.25 - No,  G-Box - No, NJE/OSI - Yes
CWI Amsterdam     NT/X.25 - Yes, G-Box - No, otherwise Yes
Nijmegen          NT/X.25 - No , Applications - Yes
RAL               Restricted manpower, otherwise Yes
QZ                transport no until 21/6/88, otherwise Yes
Copenhagen        transport no until 21/6/88, otherwise Yes
Bonn              NT/X.25 - Yes, G-Box - No, NJE/OSI - No

Further in detail by end of June and to distribute a detailed plan and a response on the level of effort.

The EARN EXEC decided to have a major planning meeting with all partners (DEC, IBM and NT) on August 18 (and 19), 1988.

C. REPORTS

8. TOPOLOGY

Alain Auroux reported that all decided changes in the topology are implemented and operational except Bonn-MOP and Bonn-CERN -see also appendix B.

9. FINANCE

Alain Auroux has distributed the new overall budget and the country contribution. He was asked to send a letter to all EARN BOD members indicating that a decision on the budget and country contribution has to be taken during the next EARN BOD meeting.

NEXT MEETING.

The next meeting will be held in Paris on July 28, 1988 and the following meeting is planned for August 18-19, 1988.

Appendix A: EARN90

Dear Michael

There is a MISSUNDERSTANDING about EARN90

I only said that FUNET in cooperation with NORDUNET will think about EARN90 to be arranged in Finland.

I can't decide the idea.

The FUNET steering committee is NOT yet willing to CONFIRM the idea.

As I said in Turkey OUR idea is to arrange EARN90 as European Networks Users Conference (ENUC90) so that we can in a way co-operate also with EUNET and RARE/COSINE.

FUNET WILL NOT CONFIRM the arrangement of EARN90 before beginning of September.... SORRY

Matti Ihamuotila

Appendix B: BONN LINE STATUS

Some information regarding the German international EARN lines:

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